Legislature(1997 - 1998)

01/28/1998 09:00 AM Senate HES

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                SCR 19 - PROTOTYPE SCHOOL DESIGN                               
                                                                               
SENATOR TIM KELLY, co-chair of the Deferred Maintenance Task Force             
(DMTF), presented SCR 19.  The DMTF received testimony on the cost             
savings and operational advantages of prototypical schools.                    
Several communities use them today; the task force found that                  
savings in design costs and ease of maintaining several identical              
physical plants offered the opportunity to fund more schools as the            
savings are achieved.  One rural school district has expressed                 
great interest in using a prototype for schools in its district and            
is currently in discussion with the Fairbanks School District to               
learn from the Fairbanks experience.  Two schools in Fairbanks are             
of the same design and were built at less cost.  The resolution                
requests the Department of Education (DOE) to develop prototypical             
schools and incentives for districts to use them.  The DOE is                  
requested to report to the Legislature by March 1 any statutory                
changes that may be needed to accomplish this goal.                            
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN commented that he was also a member of the DMTF and            
he had prior experience on the prototype effort through his                    
association with the Fairbanks' School District.  When traveling               
throughout the Northwest District this summer, he was struck by the            
idea that a prototypical school in those areas would be a welcome              
addition to the villages at a significantly lower cost.  If the                
state can build schools across the state for less than double digit            
numbers, it will get more for its dollars.                                     
                                                                               
Number 081                                                                     
                                                                               
DOUG GREEN, a member and chair of the Governmental Affairs                     
Committee of the American Institute of Architects (AIA), and the               
Alaska Professional Design Council (APFC), gave the following                  
testimony.  Prototypes used in Anchorage and Fairbanks have been               
successful because both locations have larger populations and                  
similar site conditions, and because the same firms were involved              
in reusing the designs.  Although those projects were successful,              
he stated the following concerns about using that concept                      
statewide.  In 1991 the Georgia DOE surveyed 49 states and found               
many of the states that had tried prototypical designs would not               
use them again, and no states used them on a statewide basis. The              
State of Alaska has a wide variety of site, climatic, and soil                 
conditions; very little is saved when different conditions have to             
be considered in the design of each school. There is a high cost               
associated with developing various designs for different climatic              
and soil conditions across the state.  If all site conditions are              
similar, a cost savings of 15 to 20 percent can result from using              
prototypical designs.  These designs, once developed, become                   
outdated with code changes and technological advances.  If the                 
committee's goal is to save money, the AIA has found that in small             
communities where local residents are involved in the design of a              
school, they take much greater responsibility for the building and             
treat it better.  That pride of ownership translates to lower                  
maintenance costs and better care for the facility.  The AIA's                 
third concern is with liability.  If prototypical designs are used             
statewide, one architect may have to modify the original design                
which could create liability problems.  In addition, AIA believes              
there may be problems with standardizing educational                           
specifications.  He suggested headway could be made by introducing             
a database of features that have worked well for school districts              
across the state.                                                              
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN asked what the other variables would be difficult              
to incorporate into a basic school design across the state, other              
than foundations and sloping sites.  MR. GREEN said many of the                
variables are climate related.  In Southeast, buildings must be                
designed for heavy rainfall and moisture in the air, on the north              
and west coasts the concern is fine powder-driven snow                         
infiltration, vapor barrier concerns, insulation, and wind                     
patterns.  Using a prototype design might result in an over-designed model in S
along the north coast.                                                         
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN clarified SCR 19 only applies to primary schools.              
He suggested creating three prototypical designs for different                 
climates: north of the Alaska Range, Southcentral, and Southeast.              
                                                                               
MR. GREEN stated there are also different seismic zones throughout             
the State that require specific design standards for each zone.                
                                                                               
Number 225                                                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN noted Len Mackler would be testifying next via                 
teleconference.  Mr. Mackler testified before the DMTF meeting in              
Fairbanks and gave a visual presentation, and gave task force                  
members a tour of two prototypical schools.                                    
                                                                               
LEN MACKLER stated the Fairbanks School District uses a 600-student            
elementary school prototype.  The first school was built in 1993;              
six more have been built since.  The Fairbanks School District owns            
the design, and has improved it each time to correct any facility              
or educational program problems that arose out of previous                     
versions.  The prototype requires a fairly flat site.  The school              
district also has a sloped site design that has only been used                 
once.  The last of the seven prototypes built cost $9.9 million in             
construction costs, for a 63,000 square foot building ($157 per sq.            
ft.).  Fairbanks has realized several advantages of prototype                  
design use.  The first advantage is time saved which can eliminate             
one year of inflation costs, get the students into better                      
facilities sooner, and reduce overcrowding faster.  Voters also see            
a quicker response to bond issues.  The second advantage is the                
cost savings.  Fairbanks is spending about five percent of                     
construction costs on architect and engineering designs versus the             
more typical 10 to 11 percent for each new design.  That six                   
percent difference amounts to about $750,000 plus the one year                 
inflation savings.  The third advantage is bid competitiveness.                
Contractors who bid on these projects know that the low bidder on              
each previous prototype made money and that the designs are                    
complete.  Every project has come in under the engineer's estimate.            
The fourth advantage is the teachers' and principals' significant              
input into the design.  After the first year of occupancy, all                 
staff are surveyed and asked for suggestions.  Those comments are              
analyzed and incorporated into the next design.  The designs are               
also upgraded for technology and current codes, and one district               
wide special education program is included to meet that program's              
needs.  Start-up problems are drastically reduced.  The last                   
advantage is the standardization of systems and use of high quality            
components, which reaps big rewards in overall maintenance                     
programs.                                                                      
                                                                               
MR. MACKLER explained the Fairbanks' School District has also used             
elements of the prototypical designs in renovations and additions              
to older schools.  In summary, the Fairbanks' community likes the              
prototypical concept and has saved considerable money in initial               
construction costs and in the long term maintenance costs of its               
facilities.                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN asked who has opposed the effort for prototypical              
schools in Fairbanks.  MR. MACKLER answered the only complaint came            
from some people in the design community, particularly architects              
who were beaten out during the RFP phase by the original architect             
who knew the most about the building.  Based on the savings and                
input from the staff using the building, that complaint was found              
to have no merit.                                                              
                                                                               
Number 484                                                                     
                                                                               
SENATOR LEMAN questioned who assumes the liability for the school              
district when the prototype designs are changed.  MR. MACKLER                  
answered the borough has public works staff who contract for the               
construction.  The borough owns the prototype design, and each                 
upgraded design, so it does assume some liability.                             
                                                                               
SENATOR LEMAN asked if changes are being made to the design, the               
borough would have full responsibility for the design.  He asked               
who is stamping the contract documents.  MR. MACKLER said the                  
architects are stamping the contract documents.  SENATOR LEMAN                 
asked if the architects are under contract to the school district.             
MR. MACKLER replied each time a prototype is about to be built, the            
school district issues an RFP to hire an architect; that architect             
is responsible for the design and stamps the drawings.  SENATOR                
LEMAN asked if the architect takes the district's prototype design,            
makes the appropriate changes for that site, incorporates                      
technology upgrades, and seals the contract documents.  MR. MACKLER            
said that is the procedure used.                                               
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN noted that Mr. Mackler is a member of the Bond                 
Reimbursement and Grant Review Committee which will visit this                 
issue on February 19 in Juneau.                                                
                                                                               
LOU MATHESON, the Superintendent of the Northwest Arctic Borough               
School District (NWABSD), testified via teleconference from                    
Kotzebue.  NWABSD supports the concept of prototypical schools                 
because it believes the approach has merit, even in rural Alaska               
and on different building sites.  Prototypical school designs will             
bring about an initial reduction in construction costs, primarily              
due to decreased design costs, and the standardization of equipment            
and materials should reduce operating costs.  NWABSD also                      
anticipates there will be a reduction in expansion costs.  One                 
school in Kotzebue, completed in 1989, is already well beyond its              
capacity.  If the prototypical design could be expanded easily,                
rather than requiring a complete redesign, cost savings will                   
result.  NWABSD offered to assist the committee to expedite                    
severely-needed new construction in rural Alaska.                              
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN noted the Buckland School is seventh on the capital            
replacement list.                                                              
                                                                               
DAVID BELL, testifying from Kotzebue, stated Mr. Matheson covered              
the remarks he planned to make.                                                
                                                                               
Number 388                                                                     
                                                                               
MIKE MORGAN, Facilities Manager for the Department of Education                
(DOE), made the following comments.  To accomplish the goals of SCR
19, DOE will need more definition.  The resolution does not clarify            
whether it applies to elementary schools only, and what core school            
functions are.  He noted that the issue of school size has not been            
addressed either.  DOE's position paper postulates four different              
size ranges which allows for expandability.  He cautioned that DOE             
used a stock plan in the 1970's, and if prototypical designs are               
used again, he would want assurance that the same problems do not              
recur.                                                                         
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN asked if the Molly Hootch schools are "cookie-cutter" schools. 
the same plan.                                                                 
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN stated that he and Senator Leman had a chance to               
see some of those schools and felt they were disappointing at best.            
MR. MORGAN said the design with a narrow stairway going to a forced            
air furnace room was replicated in a number of places around the               
state, and that design suffers in a number of aspects.                         
                                                                               
MR. MORGAN informed the committee he attended a conference held by             
the Council of Educational Facility Planners last summer.  British             
Columbia's experience with facility planning was discussed.                    
British Columbia has a wide climatic and school size range, similar            
to Alaska.  To control costs, it has placed a limit on the per                 
square foot cost with an adjustment for area, and requires value               
engineering.  Value engineering requires the use of a procedure to             
determine that specific components make good economic sense over               
the full life of the school, such as the use of cedar siding.                  
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN commented this legislation may be the worst idea               
to come down the pike but this issue needs to be explored by the               
Bond Reimbursement Committee, DMTF members, and DOE staff.  He                 
repeated if 15 to 20 percent is saved on each school, the                      
Legislature can get down the list a lot faster.                                
                                                                               
SENATOR ELLIS asked Mr. Morgan if he was suggesting Alaska adopt               
some of the procedures used in British Columbia as an alternative              
to what SCR 19 mandates, the development of regulations and                    
incentives for using prototypes.  MR. MORGAN said the issue of                 
prototypes brings to the table the various things that need to be              
done to control costs.  He was offering that information as other              
possible avenues that could be used instead of, or in conjunction              
with, the use of prototypical designs.                                         
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN stated that one of the charges of the Bond                     
Reimbursement Committee, formed in 1994 by the Legislature, is to              
analyze existing prototypical designs for school construction                  
projects.  This idea began long before the DMTF came along.                    
                                                                               
SENATOR ELLIS asked whether any organizations have compiled                    
statistics or anecdotes from previous experiences in the '70s with             
the prototypical approach.  MR. MORGAN replied that nothing has                
been documented, but creating a "lessons learned" report is on                 
DOE's list of things to do.                                                    
                                                                               
Number 469                                                                     
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN stated that he learned, from his limited visits to             
the Bush this summer, that the Molly Hootch schools offered the                
opportunity to task the maintenance of any school district.   In               
his opinion, those schools were not built for Alaska.                          
                                                                               
SENATOR ELLIS asked if Mr. Green had sent written testimony to the             
committee.  CHAIRMAN WILKEN stated the Society of Architects would             
be submitting a position paper, and that SCR 19 would remain in                
committee so that members could work on the K-6 issue and other                
changes.                                                                       
                                                                               
Number 484                                                                     
                                                                               
SENATOR LEMAN said he served on the DMTF and has been in many                  
schools around the state in his professional capacity.  He stated              
he shares many of Mr. Green's reservations, and is concerned that              
the Legislature thinks it can apply a simplistic solution statewide            
to solve this problem.  He agrees with the goal of getting good                
designs at a lower cost and that this approach has been successful             
in Anchorage and Fairbanks, and he favors encouraging this approach            
where it can be successful.  He cautioned that it would be unwise              
to think this approach is a cure-all for new school construction               
statewide.  He suggested keeping a repository in DOE of successful             
plans, but noted he is reluctant to ask the DOE to develop                     
prototypical designs.  Senator Leman concluded that he likes the               
goal of the resolution, but believes this approach could be                    
dangerous in some circumstances.  He offered to work with all                  
interested to craft the measure to encourage the appropriate                   
activity to accomplish the goal.                                               
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILKEN acknowledged Senator Leman's remarks and explained             
SCR 19 has been offered as a concept for the Administration and                
Legislature to work toward.  He announced to those on                          
teleconference that SCR 19, if it passes the Legislature, will be              
brought before the Bond Reimbursement Committee on February 19.                
                                                                               
SENATOR ELLIS asked if SCR 19 will be scheduled before the                     
committee again.  CHAIRMAN WILKEN said it would.                               

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